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Post by ilikefilms on May 21, 2007 8:57:44 GMT -5
Warner Bro's did some cool marketing this past weekend for the new Batman movie. They put up a campaign picture of Harvey Dent and it mysteriously got hacked by the Joker. On the hacked Joker link you could put in your email address and it would replace the Dent picture with one pixel of the Joker's face. If enough people went to the site, the full picture of the Joker would appear. Well, plenty of people got wind of it and in no time flat the full picture appeared. The final picture is below:  How do people feel about it? I think it's a very appropriate take on the character due to his insane nature. |
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Post by elisabeth on May 21, 2007 16:14:03 GMT -5
i'm no batman buff, but the joker has always been a frightening character to me, and this version freaks me RIGHT OUT.
i can't wait for this movie!!
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Post by proxy on May 21, 2007 21:05:41 GMT -5
Man...I wish they'd film The Killing Joke.
that's a fantastic Joker. I renew my lifelong dream of playing Harlequin.
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Post by Jason R. Chin on May 22, 2007 9:53:45 GMT -5
Man...I wish they'd film The Killing Joke. that's a fantastic Joker. I renew my lifelong dream of playing Harlequin. Harley Quinn is not in the Killing Joke. Have you read "Mad Love"? It's her origin. And she was created "out of the universe".. she was made for the animated series. |
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Post by proxy on May 22, 2007 11:35:19 GMT -5
Harley Quinn is not in the Killing Joke. Have you read "Mad Love"? It's her origin. And she was created "out of the universe".. she was made for the animated series. I'm aware...those were two separate wishes. (I wouldn't really want to be in the Killing Joke, all the ladies end up pretty...screwed) I know, I'm guessing they'd consider her too newbie for the movie. But a girl can dream.... |
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Post by pmottaz on May 24, 2007 20:35:21 GMT -5
[super sarcastic]
Oh, good... looks like they're gonna deal with Joker's origin. That's really important for people to understand why Joker's evil. It's not enough that he's a 60+ year-old popular character who's always been known as a classic villain.
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Didn't the cartoon just rule? In every way, that show ruled. One of the most brilliant moves they did (possibly their choice, possibly in a work of compliance with Warner Brothers) was to just have Batman already fighting the Joker.
It's like a good improv scene: do yourself a favor and have your characters know each other at the beginning. It's like movie makers want to ensure the maximum amount of exposition scenes possible.
Think of how much more exciting scenes you could be watching in a Batman movie vs. The Joker if you didn't have to deal with 30+ minutes of "he was a small time crook who fell in a vat of acid."
Most of all... we've already seen it in one of the most popular, well-publicized movies ever made. Even if you didn't love that movie (rhymes with Jason R. Shin), you still saw it. You still get it.
Ah, the age of over explanation.
Creepy? Sure. On it's way to being my favorite Joker? Not even close.
Harumph....
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Post by dan on May 25, 2007 10:02:42 GMT -5
I know they announced Heath Ledger a while ago, but looking at that picture and reading the cartoon comments, I really wish they'd cast Mark Hammill. I mean wouldn't that have been 11 kinds of awesome?
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Post by Jason R. Chin on May 25, 2007 10:29:59 GMT -5
oh, Phil.
That kind of thinking is what got us the bore-ring Superman Returns.
The cinematic crime known as Batman (by Tim Burton) was more than 20 years ago! It's time for a new origin story and with the sensibilities and artistry that created Batman Begins, it will be fun and enjoyable.
And, in a way, it's part of the tradition of the Joker to have his origin told and retold. There is no DC Comics canon to his origin (even after the amazing Killing Joke by Moore and Bolland), his story is still shrouded in myth and hushed tales told by both cops and crooks.
Yes, the animated series had to take the Burton movies as canon.
In the 50s they finallly got around to telling the Joker origin. Then the late 80s saw the Killing Joke and Batman (the Burton movie). It's time for a new one.
I like the Ledger pic. Creepy. Its what kids who are afraid of clowns see at the circus. I also hear Ted Levine (as Buffalo Bill/Jamie Gumb) muttering to himself, "I'd make sweet love me. I'd make sweet love me so hard."
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Post by pmottaz on May 25, 2007 11:36:13 GMT -5
oh, Phil. That kind of thinking is what got us the bore-ring Superman Returns. The cinematic crime known as Batman (by Tim Burton) was more than 20 years ago! It's time for a new origin story and with the sensibilities and artistry that created Batman Begins, it will be fun and enjoyable. And, in a way, it's part of the tradition of the Joker to have his origin told and retold. There is no DC Comics canon to his origin (even after the amazing Killing Joke by Moore and Bolland), his story is still shrouded in myth and hushed tales told by both cops and crooks. Yes, the animated series had to take the Burton movies as canon. In the 50s they finallly got around to telling the Joker origin. Then the late 80s saw the Killing Joke and Batman (the Burton movie). It's time for a new one. I like the Ledger pic. Creepy. Its what kids who are afraid of clowns see at the circus. I also hear Ted Levine (as Buffalo Bill/Jamie Gumb) muttering to himself, "I'd make sweet love me. I'd make sweet love me so hard." Bull plop. I do not--do NOT--want another "Superman Returns." The big problem with that movie was not that they relied on the audience knowing who Superman and Lex Luthor were... it was that they took the first 2 Christopher Reeves movies as a starting point. There's no reason to do that. "Batman Begins" didn't do that, and it worked out great for them. Now, I'm not saying they should take 1989's "Batman" as canon, but they should use that, the comics' presence, the TV shows and all the public awareness of the Joker and who he is in general (i.e. a crazy bad guy with a clown face) as understood by the audience. I would wager dollars to donuts that if they just started this next movie out with Joker already being Joker, and he's got some scheme for Gotham City that NO ONE over the age of 5 would say, "I get who Batman is, but who's this dude with white skin and green hair? I am soooooo lost." That's all I'm saying. I don't think you need everything explained out, and that is what it looks like they want to do. To explain Joker. To make him "real." Bull plop. BULL PLOP! man... I was so pumped up by that final scene in "Begins" not only because it's great, but because it played on the assumption that anyone going to a Batman movie would know who left a freakin' JOKER CARD at a crime scene. It also means that the Joker's already kind of out there, and that he and Batman will have to tangle in multiple adventures. That's the problem with movies dealing with arch nemesiseseseses... there's usually only one story, so there's no time for making them "arch" enough. I'm just not jumping for joy, that's all. |
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Post by dan on May 25, 2007 12:00:53 GMT -5
The only reason I'm bored with the idea of the Joker (and I am a little) is that in the first Nolan Batman movie, they picked villains based on the functionality of the story. That kind of logic is AWESOME.
Most superhero movies, in fact pretty much all of them with the exception of the first Raimi Spiderman movie, select villains using 100% canon-based logic. This hero just "goes" with this villain based on the thought process based on the comic's original writer. Magneto was interwoven into the X-Men comics so much, that regardless of the story of the first X-Men movie, they really tried hard to rewrite the story to include him. It was cool in some ways, really forced in other more plot-driven ways.
With the first Batman movie, Scarecrow (a virtually unknown villain) was beautifully interwoven into a plot about the millionaire Wayne discovering and becoming interested in his city's crime structure. It was fucking beautiful how they wrote that in. I mean seriously, remember when they announced on Aint It Cool and other movie nerd sites that the villain was fucking Scarecrow?! People went apeshit. It was like saying you're going to do a scarier, more real remake of Star Wars and instead of putting Darth Vader in the first movie, you're going to make the lead antagonist the bounty hunter Bossk. I mean, it COULD work, but of all the choices right? But then Christopher Nolan made all those people eat their words. This time, he's having the exact opposite villain problem. Everyone knows this one. Vader's shown up.
Now, I love the way they wrote Joker into the end of that film. It was very clever. But I'm really hoping they do that justice and don't just give him a bunch of comic book referenced devices and hideouts based on the idea that, as Jason said, people just "know" Joker. More than just riding on the assumption that the audience knows about the character, it's lazy storytelling.
Like if you wrote a movie about NBA basketball player Karl Malone, and the whole movie he got a stomache-ache when he saw the number 12, you'd want the director to SHOW YOU that in his worst season he averaged 12 points per game. You wouldn't just show the number 12 stomach-aches and let the audience just go "Oh, that quirky Malone and his #12 nausea!"
If Joker has a bomb that looks like a windup-box or whatever, to match the feel of the first movie that shit has to be really in context. You can't just see a toy and go "oh, that's a bomb".
You can practically FEEL the Joker being written that lazily, with just the inclusion of his name in the credits. Being a scary clown is also a really broad premise for a villain. If they're going to do it right, they're going to weave it into the next logical chapter of Batman's story. They did that so goddamn well in the first movie, here's to hoping for more of the same.
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